FIR show #142 - Thursday June 1, 2006 - Skypecast Text chats capture ================================== Sebastian Keil: How come the skypecast starts in 8 minutes, is my clock slow? neville: hi all. quite a crowd here alreaqdy. Nathan Reeve: Hi Neville Jonathan R.: Hello Neville Kevin Finch: Hey, Neville. How are you doing? neville: so, show starts in 20 mins! great Kevin, how are you? Kevin Finch: Excellent, thanks. Nathan Reeve: Sorry, BRB. Just going to pop out for a quick smoke before the fun begins neville: i wish this chat window was a bit bigger Dan York: me too Sebastian Keil: when you read through all the comments after the show you'll see, we do too Kevin Finch: Keeps our messages from being too long-winded... Nathan Reeve: Neville, I re-opened the frame in a new window and it is heaps better Dan York: ah neville: Hey Sebastian, how are you? Didn';t get a chance to complete our chat in Cologne before I had to leave! Ah, thanks Nathan, I'll try that. Welcome to Gabbly! gabber378 has joined. neville has joined. neville: oh definitely, muuuuuch better! gabber378 has left. Sebastian Keil: yes, sorry. recording went late and I ididnt have nicoles cell number either Dan York has joined. Dan York has joined. Dan York has left. Sebastian Keil has joined. neville: guys, need to complete prep so be back in a minute... Dan York has joined. Dan York: testin Sebastian Keil has left. Sebastian Keil: this is much better, thanks nathan gabber526 has joined. Dan York has left. gabber526 is now Dan York - MSIE Dan York - MSIE: Anyone having a problem with gabbly in Firefox? I'm getting a "System Message: Connection is broken. Please refresh your browser" Dan York has left. Dan York has left. Dan York - MSIE has left. gabber8 has joined. gabber8 is now Dan York stevenloepfe has left. Jonathan R.: No problems with Firefox on my end Dan Sebastian Keil: here neither Dan York: hmmm Sent at 05:47 pm on Thursday. gabber947 is now Bryan Person Bryan Person has joined. Bryan Person: Hey there, guys! gabber637 has joined. gabber637 is now Sallie Goetsch Sent at 05:49 pm on Thursday. Bryan Person has left. Nathan Reeve: I didn't realise that Skypecast didn't support a chat window and that is why we need Gabbly Bryan Person has joined. Dan York: listen to Shel type! :-) gabber15 has joined. gabber289: 100 words a minute Shel: Skype supports IM, not chat, unfortunately. That may change. Okay, so I gotta get a muffler for my keyboard. Dan York: you *can* do a group chat in Sky[e gabber15 is now Luke Armour Shel: Ah, another feature I haven't seen. Probably because I've never had a need for it before. gabber289: hey Luke.. good to see you Luke Armour: Who's that? gabber289: David Phillips.. Luke Armour: and hello, all Hello, David Shel: Yeah, could everybody change their names from gabberxxx to something we'll recognize? Thanks... gabber289: aka gabber 289 Shel: Just type in your name where it says "Name," then click "Change." gabber289 is now David Phillips David Phillips: or the other way round Sebastian Keil: hey luke, do i remember correctly, you not only wrote that paper but also did the "maybe next intro music", right? Bryan Person: Just confirming there's no way to listen to the show without Skype, right? I don't have access here at work. Sebastian Keil: shel, couldn't he call the skype in number? Luke Armour: Yes, Sebastian, that is me. I'm working on revamping it now that I've graduated. gabber133 has joined. gabber133 is now Josh H Dan York: Bryan... one of us could call you Nathan Reeve: I'm suprised that most of you have hidden profiles on Skype. Dan York: and conf you in to the call David Phillips: 12 already..... Bryan Person has left. Bryan Person: Hey there, Luke. C.C. Chapman read your comment on the latest installment of "Managing the Gray" He butchered the pronunciation, though :( Luke Armour: Yes, he did. I was honored he enjoyed it so much. I was just astounded to hear his voice and name all over my podcast world gabber720 has joined. Sebastian Keil: For the longest time, I have a suggestion for the ending, where the guys supposedly start toalking, maybe i can send you a file? gabber720 has left. gabber677 has joined. neville: show starting soon, everyone! Luke Armour: yes Bryan Person has left. Dan York: we can hear you lots of background noise, though Luke Armour: I agree with Dan yes Sebastian Keil: yes Dan York: yes Josh H: Neville, flush the toilet and get to your computer Paul McEnany has left. Kevin Finch: Yes, I can hear you. gabber677 has left. Josh H: lookinat the skype screen so is Dan York's Dan York: oops stevenloepfe has left. Sebastian Keil: shel should add this click thing which ads time stamp to the chat, so that you can produce a video: chat with podcasts audio gabber224 has joined. stevenloepfe has joined. gabber224 is now deb gabber708 has left. Dan York: okay, I don't hear neville anymore ah, someone's back yes Josh H: yes Nathan Reeve: yes Luke Armour: Both of you ooh, and Dan! Sebastian Keil: oh that was me, no need to put that in, just a test to keep the line working ;-) stevenloepfe is now Steven Loepfe Sebastian Keil: shel? did you read what I wrote? deb has left. Allan Jenkins has joined. gabber721 has joined. Luke Armour: Ah, FIR: Behind the Music Nathan Reeve: Hi Allan gabber131 has joined. gabber721 is now Jeff Brubacher Allan Jenkins: Hi Everyone Kevin Finch: Hey, Allen. Josh H: hola Dan York: hi Sebastian Keil: and to honest, I called at least an hour ago Bryan Person: Has the show started? Sorry, I feel so left out without being able to listen. Sebastian Keil: i was aksing if you could share the porn links on del.icio.us ;-) Luke Armour: No, Bryan, it hasn't Allan Jenkins: No I skipped, had client work David Phillips: Hi Bryan Bryan Person has left. Sent at 06:07 pm on Thursday. Sallie Goetsch: Naw, if you leave Neville muted, it'll take the fun out of it. Is that like "it depends"? Bryan Person has left. Dan York: yes, but there would be less background noise! :-) (dan ducks and hides) Sebastian Keil: 16 in the chat, 20 on the cast Sent at 06:10 pm on Thursday. Luke Armour: history in the making... Dan York: And so it begins... Allan Jenkins: Wheeeeeeeeeeeee Nathan Reeve: YEEHAAAH! Sebastian Keil: dadiddle didup David Phillips: sounds quite normal to me yup Dan York: hahaha Sebastian Keil: oh, go voting at podcast alley David Phillips: me...MUTE!!!!! never in the history...... Dan York: :-) David Phillips: :) gabber776 has joined. Josh H has left. Steven Loepfe has left. Steven Loepfe has joined. Dan York: If you have just signed in, please change your name from "gabber123" to your real name gabber79 is now Andrew gabber777 is now Josie Salkey Sebastian Keil: And if you find the window too small, you can open it in a new window/tab, it'll open bigger Luke Armour has left. gabber969 has joined. gabber969 is now Luke Armour Josh H has left. Steven Loepfe has joined. Steven Loepfe has left. gabber131 has left. Kevin Finch has left. Sent at 06:20 pm on Thursday. David Phillips: Marketing RIP gabber399 has joined. gabber399 is now Josh @ hyku gabber776 is now judyjones1790 judyjones1790: LOL David Phillips: This is an opportunity for PR... we have to grab this space Bryan Person has joined. neville: anyone got a comment on this? David Phillips: wed are all shy judyjones1790: I'd be interested to find out what industry these marketers are in? Sallie Goetsch has left. gabber92 has joined. Steven Loepfe has left. Steven Loepfe has joined. neville: www.clickz.com/news/article.php/360336 David Phillips: I am pretty sure that it will not be long before the competitive advantage will pass to the organisations using social media Sebastian Keil: thanks neville, i was going to ask for links... Allan Jenkins has left. Dan York: I can't see anything in that article - it looks like I need to subscribe. Sebastian Keil: :-( Josie Salkey has left. neville: no it's open access Josh @ hyku: you can mute me now :-) David Phillips: and that will happen again unless we are making our way now Allan Jenkins has joined. Nathan Reeve: I can't get it either. Has anyone got the direct link to the Forrester article? Shel: Adweek link: Josie Salkey has joined. Shel: http://www.adweek.com/aw/iq_interactive/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002576716 Allan Jenkins: Wow hes dropping out entirely at my end Nathan Reeve: Thanks Josh @ hyku: is anybody else getting breakup on Andr Andrew has left. Dan York: yep Josh @ hyku: last minute gabber131 has left. Dan York: he was having a "Skype moment" David Phillips: lol Nathan Reeve: Interesting that it was actually research into interactive marketers, not just the whole marketing fraternity Bryan Person: Guys, this looks great. Sorry I can't contribute much. No Skype here at work. Jonathan R.: Ditto Bryan Shel: we'll read your questions or comments that you pose in chat, Bryan and Jonathan. David Phillips: We are preparing a course at LeedsMet Josie Salkey has left. Josh @ hyku: come on Allan, we want to hear from the DRC :-) David Phillips: lol Dan York: Bryan - what's your phone number? I can conference you in Allan Jenkins: Errrr Luke Armour: creepy... David Phillips: two of him... oh... hell... Bryan Person: Ahh, cool. (617) 760-5553 Sebastian Keil has joined. Allan Jenkins: Who is this? neville: so, david, be ready to comment! David Phillips: don't know...... neville: heh! David Phillips: ok Sebastian Keil: crank it up Dan York: okay, Bryan, I'll give it a try judyjones1790: David P? Stonehenge Man David Phillips: was that stone age man...:) gabber92: Alas, I'm going to have to sign off--the pesky clients are calling. judyjones1790: I so enjoy listening to your comments - so yes! Comment, please! Shel: who are you, gabber92? gabber92: Sallie Nathan Reeve: Not so much of a problem here. It is 2:30 am here! gabber92: I changed the name, but it didn't refresh. Shel: Ahh...well, come back when you're done. we'll be here a while. gabber92 is now Sallie Goetsch Sallie Goetsch: Oh, *there* Sebastian Keil: have to clikc change gabber627 has joined. Allan Jenkins: Hey its rhymes with Sketch! Sallie Goetsch: I'll get the hang of this sometime long after I need it. Yes, c'est moi. Allan Jenkins: A nobody! Sallie Goetsch: Too right. Alas, however, a nobody with obligations. Sebastian Keil has left. Sallie Goetsch has left. Andrew has joined. Sent at 06:34 pm on Thursday. Bryan Person has left. Bryan Person: I'm in, Dan! Thanks. Kevin Finch has left. gabber750 has joined. Sebastian Keil: see Bryan Person: Jonathan, maybe someone can conference you in too. gabber750 is now Kevin Finch Dan York has left. gabber627 is now francois Sent at 06:37 pm on Thursday. Bryan Person has left. Luke Armour: Dan York. Internet Hero. You want me to make you a theme song, too? Dan York: :-) David Phillips: I cant hear a thing Dan York: http://www.pulver.com/savethenet/ Jonathan R.: Bryan, Thanks, but I'm ok for now. I have a meeting in a few, so I'll have to leave anyway. Dan York: http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/004741.html Shel: david, you seem to have dropped off the call. David Phillips: yes great timing gabber590 has joined. gabber590 has left. Dan York: oh, great, I got muted :-) gabber91 has joined. gabber798 has joined. Bryan Person has left. gabber798 has left. gabber91 has left. gabber457 has joined. Sent at 06:42 pm on Thursday. gabber457 is now Bryan Person Bryan Person: Chat room freezing for anyone else? Steven Loepfe: even in Switzerland Shel: not for me. Luke Armour: nope Kevin Finch: I had to refresh and log back on. Bryan Person: Right. Me too. Allan Jenkins: It did before, i had to relog on Bryan Person: I've moved over to Explorer. I'll see if that makes a difference Sebastian Keil: cool, Skype dropped me, just re-dialled, works fine gabber791 has joined. gabber791 is now Easton Ellsworth Andrew: IMS is a poster child for net neutrality for Telco's/Wireless providers. They are simply terrified of Skype and intelligent end point devices. Jeff initiative is bang on and needs to happen. Easton Ellsworth: hello - keep me muted, please - I'd like to remain a wallflower :) Shel: we only unmute you if you ask for the microphone. Easton Ellsworth: thanks David Phillips: ok.. I,m back...phew! Bryan Person has left. Dan York: Note that the contest I mentioned at http://www.pulver.com/savethenet/ has a deadline of June 6 for submissions. Bryan Person has joined. Bryan Person: Got kicked off again in Explorer. Easton Ellsworth has left. Sent at 06:49 pm on Thursday. Bryan Person has joined. Bryan Person has left. Shel: it's quiet out there...too quite. quiet Josh @ hyku: shout! Dan York: Actually, http://www.techcrunch.com/ right now shows that he has 113K subscribers! Nathan Reeve: Sorry Shel, I can't speak. I'll wake the children. Luke Armour: we're all too in awe listening Sebastian Keil: thats a lot! Josh @ hyku: just wrote about this today: http://hyku.com/blog/archives/001151.html Luke Armour: self promotion! Josh @ hyku: yep :-) Luke Armour: lol Bryan Person has left. Bryan Person has left. Bryan Person has left. Sent at 06:54 pm on Thursday. Bryan Person has joined. Allan Jenkins: Just adopt the Desirable Roasted Coffee Code of Blogging Ethics Jeff Brubacher: Anyone know if the Skype video service ties into skypecast? Andrew: video isn't supported yet. Bryan Person has left. David Phillips: perhaps this is why it is important to build communities... Nathan Reeve: Video isn't supported for Mac users as yet either David Phillips: friends then come to your aid Dan York: yep David Phillips: here is one such example Bryan Person has left. Josh @ hyku: gotta sign off at 1...this has been great...when's the next one :-0 Dan York: but as the Tim O'Reilly saga can attest - some folks normally friendly can quickly jump to conclusions Luke Armour: too true, Dan Nathan Reeve: Cory Doctorow from BoingBoing was pretty supportive of the O'Reilly push for Web 2.0 Sebastian Keil: but this is similar to the "web 2.0" o'reilly thing: spread information before checking facts Bryan Person has joined. Steven Loepfe has left. Sebastian Keil: sorry dan Dan York: no problem Bryan Person has joined. Dan York: "Great minds...." Jeff Brubacher: Must go as well. It's been great to be part of this. Josh @ hyku has left. Bryan Person has left. Jeff Brubacher has left. Steven Loepfe has joined. Dan York: agreed Bryan Person has left. Jonathan R.: Thanks Shel and Neville for the opportunity. Hope to comment more in the future. Bryan Person has left. Jonathan R. has left. Bryan Person has joined. Sent at 07:01 pm on Thursday. Steven Loepfe: signing off, client work, tnx fm switzerland, Steve Bryan Person has left. Bryan Person has joined. Steven Loepfe has left. Bryan Person has joined. Sent at 07:03 pm on Thursday. Luke Armour: and there's another difference between some bloggers and traditional media SOME, I said gabber54 has joined. Bryan Person: I'm not sure that Tom should have sent an e-mail first. Did the lawyers call him before sending him the C&D letter? Allan Jenkins: I blogged before fact checking on the Mobitype thing, which was a mistake Sent at 07:06 pm on Thursday. Bryan Person: That's probably true about e-mailing Tom before slamming him specifically. Fair point. Dan York: Yes, Tim being away caused a problem Bryan Person has left. Bryan Person has left. gabber54 is now Tac Anderson Andrew has left. Bryan Person has joined. Andrew has joined. Luke Armour: very noble to admit that. I wish all bloggers would make a mistake and learn from it. Humbles a person. Sent at 07:09 pm on Thursday. Luke Armour: ugh, that's better? Dan York: no Bryan Person: That sounds awful. Kevin Finch: Not much; it just gets the Apple slant out. Luke Armour: good call David Phillips: Hey... I'm 60.....do I count...:) Bryan Person has left. Sent at 07:12 pm on Thursday. Nathan Reeve: They got caught. How many don't. Allan Jenkins: Dosnt seem to be stopping Strumpette/Brian Conolly Sent at 07:14 pm on Thursday. Bryan Person has left. Bryan Person has joined. Dan York: yep, that could be a real problem David Phillips: Come to think of it, it is not so hard... the traffic stats on a site let us narrow down where and a lot of other stuff for blogs... Luke Armour: he's cutting out Andrew: Dan close your broswer/email etc. Sent at 07:18 pm on Thursday. David Phillips: Jab!...!!!!! judyjones1790 has left. Allan Jenkins: You can mute me now Sent at 07:20 pm on Thursday. neville: jab's a great word! Sebastian Keil: i either use my cell phone's cam or my iSight David Phillips: are there issues with taking footage of strangers? francois has left. Andrew: Not necessarily, we can create a dynamic link that can add all the skypeID's to one Multichat. Bryan Person has left. Allan Jenkins: I have to bail... good initiative! See some of you in Vancouver this weekend. Luke Armour: bye, Allan Allan Jenkins has left. Tac Anderson: I love loading OPML's into TailRank, that way you can see what articles get the best links, not just what blogger. I think it's a better measurment than technorati neville: thanks allan, see you there. Kevin Finch: Deputy Minister just dropped by the office for some candy; why do I feel so guilty about doing this? Bryan Person has left. Sebastian Keil: agree about technorati... Bryan Person has left. Andrew has left. Bryan Person has joined. Bryan Person: Maybe you'll break a record today for the longest show! Is that the guy from New York City? neville: i think it's Rob Safuto speaking. Bryan Person has joined. neville: now i hear it again. Luke Armour: that's what I thought Bryan Person: who has the podsafe-music site? neville: yep, it's rob. Luke Armour: yeah neville: that;s the one - podcastnc. podcastnyc Luke Armour: mystery solved. who else has one? Bryan Person: That's who I meant. Shel: Heaven forbid! neville: bryan, the longest show was the one with dan! Bryan Person has left. Luke Armour: That's his "radio voice" on the podcast Tac Anderson has left. Bryan Person has left. Luke Armour: for ever? neville: for ever! Luke Armour: how about a free podcast book? Bryan Person: Time codes for a 100-minute show? Hmm .... David Phillips: so you are looking for a mug? Sebastian Keil: arm. up. Luke Armour: I got a mug Bryan Person has left. Kevin Finch: I'd say once a quarter would be a good balance. Bryan Person has left. Dan York: Back... the challenges of live recording. Bryan Person has joined. Luke Armour: welcome back Dan York: neville: This one hasn't finished yet! Bryan Person: Time codes are wonderful for the listener ... a pain in the a** for the podcaster neville: true, dan. let's see what happens... David Phillips: I do use MP3 for lectures Dan York: Bryan - sure David Phillips: and they work.. but can't be very long Luke Armour: supplimentally or instead of, David? or mp3 of your lectures? David Phillips: added content Luke Armour: ah Dan York: Bryan - I do it for mine, which has gotten to 90 minutes (http://www.blueboxpodcast.com/ , although I don't remember which show was that long) Luke - we know! Nathan Reeve: Agist? David Phillips: My voice gets too boring... even for me Bryan Person has left. Luke Armour: Dan? Sebastian Keil: why would anybody limit the number of comments Luke Armour: Oh, the mug, right Dan York: yep Nathan Reeve: Are there timestamps for the comments here? Bryan Person has joined. Bryan Person has left. Bryan Person has left. neville: don't think so, nathan. don't see any. Bryan Person has joined. Bryan Person: Yup, I think this will break the record from the "Dan York Show" neville: only 1.27 so far, way to go... Bryan Person: It was Boston media critic Dan Kennedy who suggested that blog comments work best on blogs of a "medium size" Nathan Reeve: David, your voice is just lovely! David Phillips: lol.... perhaps you don't have to listen to it as much as I do! Bryan Person has joined. Bryan Person: David, what are you lecturing on? Dan York: Bryan - hey, Shel was hosting! I was just the guest co-host. :-) David Phillips: I lecture on PR at LeedsMet Bryan Person: I know, I know. Just a little good-natured ribbing at your expense. David Phillips: where I am also doig a PhD Bryan Person: And a quick-and-easy way to identify the show. Bryan Person has left. Bryan Person has left. Bryan Person has left. Sent at 07:41 pm on Thursday. Kevin Finch: You're cutting in and out now. Luke Armour: sounds okay to me Sebastian Keil: guys, gotta go. this has been great. I'll catch you some time next week Luke. Dan York: bryan - do you want to say anything? Shel has un-muted me since I asked for the mic Sebastian Keil has left. Dan York: Looks like Bryan has dropped off Luke Armour: righto Kevin Finch: No prob; Skype dropped me. I'm back on. Dan York: Given the time, I'll skip my comment and send it in for Monday's show Luke Armour: thank you both, gentlemen, it's been fun David Phillips: Oh... no doubt... a great show Dan York: It has been fun! Nathan Reeve: Look forward to the next one Neville David Phillips: and now what am I going to listen to on my way to Leeds Dan York: :-) Luke Armour: we're the winners, started with 26 or so and down to 9 on the skypecast Bryan Person: Same thing happened to me, Neville. Bryan Person has joined. Luke Armour: ;) neville: thank you everyone! David Phillips: hooray!!!!! our pleasure neville: t's been great! don't know if we can save this chat. shel, do you know if we can? Kevin Finch: Thanks, guys. This has been great. Luke Armour: so...now what? Bryan Person: You can drop me off Dan York: Bryan - I just did neville: heh! listen to the music! Nathan Reeve: There is a Call Recorder plug-in for Skype. Do you have it? Luke Armour: which country? Bryan Person: Luke, anything more happening with your proposed open? David Phillips: Bye all... its great to meet you in chat as well neville: nathan, is that for chat? Dan York: I have to run, too... based on that phone call I got in the midst of my live report neville: thanks dan. David Phillips: bye all Nathan Reeve: Sorry, I misunderstood which chat you were referring to Bryan Person: does this chat room close as well? neville: bye david, thanks. Shel: it's a bit of a challenge managing the mute/unmute and the recording -- sorry I didn't participate more in the chat, but it was just one level of multitqasking too much. neville: this text chat, nathan. Nathan Reeve: Very impressive work Shel. Good night from Melbourne David Phillips has left. neville: i can do a slect/copy/paste, so we can save it that way. i think. Nathan Reeve has left. Shel: Melbourne! Very late there, isn't it? Dan York: I copied/pasted into a Notepad window neville: great! Dan York: and that worked fine neville: eveycan will have a cpy! Dan York: bye Bryan Person has left. Kevin Finch: I tried that but the top of the discussion was not the start of the chat. Luke Armour: haven't found time to edit it, Sebastian was going to send me a file or two to help Bryan Person: Dan, many thanks for patching me through. Likewise! Shel has left. 5 gabbers neville neville Dan York Luke Armour Kevin Finch ========== Show notes, RSS subscriptions and MP3 downloads - http://www.forimmediaterelease.biz/